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The 13 “late date” With Motto New Orleans Liberty Head eagles struck from 1888 to 1906 are a popular subset for collectors. None of these issues are rare from an absolute sense, and a decent set of Uncirculated graded coins (MS60 to MS62) is completable for under $25,000.

In the higher Uncirculated grades (MS63 and finer) these coins represent a different story. With the exception of the 1901-O, 1903-O, and 1904-O, all of these dates are scarce in MS63 and many are unknown or virtually non-existent in MS64 and finer.

As with all larger-sized US gold coins struck after 1880, the collector needs to ask: Is this date safe from the possibility of a sizable quantity being located overseas? I’ll attempt to answer this question.

The following chart lists the various late-date New Orleans eagles along with their PCGS populations (as of 7/2021) in MS63 and higher grades:

Late-date New Orleans eagles with PCGS populations (as of 7/2021) in MS63 and higher. Courtesy Doug Winter

This chart tells us a number of interesting things about these late-date eagles from New Orleans.

The first is that the 19th-century issues are far scarcer in MS64 and higher than their counterparts from the 20th century. There is an obvious reason for this: the earlier issues have lower mintages. But I feel there may be another reason. Having carefully studied overseas hoards that have re-entered the American market in the past 30+ years, I constantly note that the three common dates of this series (1901-O, 1903-O, and 1904-O) typically have a different appearance than the earlier dates. The color is different and there tends to be a lot more dirt on the coins in addition to less abraded surfaces. Is it possible that by 1900, eagles being shipped overseas were shipped more carefully? Were they wrapped in rolls as opposed to being sent loose in bags as the earlier issues clearly were? Whatever the reason(s), it is safe to assume that there will be small numbers of these three dates (plus the scarcer 1906-O) located in MS64 and even MS65 grades.

1901-O $10.00 PCGS MS64 CAC. Images courtesy Douglas Winter Numismatics (DWN)

1901-O $10.00 PCGS MS64 CAC. Images courtesy Douglas Winter Numismatics (DWN)</span

The second is that even the so-called “common dates” (i.e., the 1901-O, the 1903-O, and the 1904-O) exist in reasonably small numbers in MS64 and higher.

Getting back to the original point of this blog, why do I feel that high-grade late dates are a “safe” purchase? Based on millions of repatriated US gold coins, we now know that the 1888-O through 1899-O eagles coming from overseas are (invariably) heavily bagmarked MS60 to MS62 coins.

1897-O $10.00 PCGS MS67 CAC

1897-O $10.00 PCGS MS67 CAC</span

I have either owned/sold or seen virtually every 1888-O through 1899-O eagle ever graded MS64 and higher by PCGS and it is my opinion that, with few exceptions, all of these coins came from domestic sources; in other words, they were coins that escaped being shipped overseas. A few, like the Eliasberg/Clapp PCGS/CAC MS67 1897-O, the Eliasberg/Clapp PCGS/CAC MS68+ 1899-O, and the PCGS SP68 1904-O, are “unicorns” (the term I use for amazing coins that shouldn’t exist; in the case of the first two in this group, these were obtained directly from the Mint at the time they were issued).

1903-O $10.00 NGC MS65

1903-O $10.00 NGC MS65</span

The populations for MS64 20th-century dates will slowly increase but this is more due to gradeflation than it is to significant numbers of very choice coins being located. And, in my opinion, the number of MS65s, even for the most common dates, is likely to remain very low. At current price levels (the current PCGS Price Guide suggests a value of $20,000 for a 1903-O in MS65 and $25,000 for a 1904-O in MS65), I think these coins are reasonably priced.

Which brings us to another question: if, say a PCGS MS64 example of a currently unknown date such as an 1892-O or an 1893-O were to appear, what would be the right price to pay? We can look at the PCGS/CAC MS64 1888-O that, at the time it was sold, was a pop 1/0 coin; it brought $21,150 back in August 2013, which seems very cheap today. In today’s Registry Set-driven market, I wouldn’t be surprised if the 1892-O or 1893-O in PCGS MS64 sold for $30,000 or more, provided it was actually a nice coin and was CAC approved.

1894-O $10.00 PCGS MS63+ CAC

1894-O $10.00 PCGS MS63+ CAC</span

How about dates like the 1892-O, 1893-O, and 1894-O in PCGS MS63? Are they safe? I think they are, especially if the coin(s) are nice and original and preferably with a CAC sticker. These three dates are currently valued in the $6,000-9,000 range for very nice PCGS MS63 coins, and I think they are fairly priced, given their relative popularity.

1899-O $10.00 PCGS MS64 CAC

1899-O $10.00 PCGS MS64 CAC</span

The two dates I’ve seen more nice coins for than one might expect are the 1899-O and the 1906-O. Both saw significant jumps in price in MS63 and MS64 in the last few years and they might actually drop in price in the coming years unless demand picks up for them.

That said, I’m still a buyer of both dates so long as they are solid for the grade.

DWN can be reached via email at [email protected].
 

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About Doug Winter

Doug_Winter2Doug has spent much of his life in the field of numismatics; beginning collecting coins at the age of seven, and by the time he was 10 years old, buying and selling coins at conventions in the New York City area.

In 1989, he founded Douglas Winter Numismatics, and his firm specializes in buying and selling choice and rare US Gold coins, especially US gold coins and all branch mint material.

Recognized as one of the leading specialized numismatic firms, Doug is an award-winning author of over a dozen numismatic books and a recognized expert on US Gold. His knowledge and an exceptional eye for properly graded and original coins have made him one of the most respected figures in the numismatic community and a sought-after dealer by collectors and investors looking for professional personalized service, a select inventory of impeccable quality, and fair and honest pricing. Doug is also a major buyer of all US coins and is always looking to purchase collections both large and small. He can be reached at (214) 675-9897.

Doug has been a contributor to the Guidebook of United States Coins (also known as the “Redbook”) since 1983, Walter Breen’s Encyclopedia of United States and Colonial Coins, Q. David Bowers’ Encyclopedia of United States Silver Dollars and Andrew Pollock’s United States Pattern and Related Issues

In addition, he has authored 13 books on US Gold coins including:
  • Gold Coins of the New Orleans Mint: 1839-1909
  • Gold Coins of the Carson City Mint: 1870 – 1893
  • Gold Coins of the Charlotte Mint: 1838-1861
  • Gold Coins of the Dahlonega Mint 1838-1861
  • The United States $3 Gold Pieces 1854-1889
  • Carson City Gold Coinage 1870-1893: A Rarity and Condition Census Update
  • An Insider’s Guide to Collecting Type One Double Eagles
  • The Connoisseur’s Guide to United States Gold Coins
  • A Collector’s Guide To Indian Head Quarter Eagles
  • The Acadiana Collection of New Orleans Coinage
  • Type Three Double Eagles, 1877-1907: A Numismatic History and Analysis
  • Gold Coins of the Dahlonega Mint, 1838-1861: A Numismatic History and Analysis
  • Type Two Double Eagles, 1866-1876: A Numismatic History and Analysis

Finally, Doug is a member of virtually every major numismatic organization, professional trade group and major coin association in the US.

 

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