HomeUS CoinsThe Coin Analyst: Eliza Johnson, not Julia Tyler, is the Current Queen...

The Coin Analyst: Eliza Johnson, not Julia Tyler, is the Current Queen of the Gold Spouses

by Louis Golino for CoinWeek…..

Identifying which coins are the lowest mintage pieces in a particular series has always been at the very heart of coin collecting in general, especially modern coin collecting.

But collectors often lack the right tools to determine which coins are the low-mintage keys in their series.

There are two reasons for this.

  • First, the U.S. Mint’s sale reports, which are released weekly, have to be reconciled and adjusted to reflect cancellations, returns, and other changes before a final audited mintage number can be made available. That can take some time.
  • Second, printed reference sources on modern U.S. coins have not done a very good job of providing updated and accurate mintage data over the years, although that is starting to change.

2011-W Eliza Johnson $10 Gold CoinThe widely-read and used “Red Book,” or Guide Book of United States Coins (Whitman Publishing, 2012), now in its 66th edition, has included incorrect data on the mintages of modern U.S. coins in recent years.

I and other numismatic writers have brought this to the attention of the publishers of the Red Book, but for some reason, the wrong data continues to be used. I certainly do not mean to suggest that the Red Book lacks value for collectors and numismatists. It remains an important reference source, but it would be much better if more care went into the preparation of mintage information about recent coins. To do so, those who prepare the book would do well to consult reputable online reference sources and work with the U.S. Mint.

Perhaps the best example of this weakness of the Red Book is the information on the $10 First Spouse gold series, which includes some glaring mistakes.

Coin World writer Erik Martin, writing in the market analysis section of the July 16 issue of Coin World, said that the 2009-W Julia Tyler coins remains “the series’ low-mintage champ with 2,188 Uncirculated and 3,878 Proof strikes.”

When I saw this story, I immediately knew that it was not correct. The lowest mintage uncirculated coin is actually the 2011-W Eliza Johnson coin with 2,905 coins sold when sales were ended recently, and the 2011-W Julia Grant coin is the lowest proof coin with 3,969 coins sold at the conclusion of sales in April. Both of those figures are not final audited numbers, but they are the most current available data as reflected in the Mint’s weekly sales reports.

The numbers which Mr. Martin used for the Julia Tyler coins “come from  are the same as those” **  in the 2013 edition of the Red Book, and they are not correct. The correct data on these coins does, however, appear in a new book by John Maben and Eric Jordan, Top 50 Most Popular Modern Coins (Krause, 2012).

** Editors Note: CoinWeek was incorrect to state that the mintage numbers used by Mr. Martin “came from the 1913 Red Book”. We do not know the source of his information or how it was compiled. The mintage are however the “same” as those used in the Red Book. We apologize to all concerned for this mis-statement and have made the correction above.

As John Maben explained to me in an interview I did with him about the book that appeared on May 24 in Coin Week , “When it comes to modern coins, Eric is known for turning over every stone to produce the finest mintage and comparative analysis data known to man. He took on this task. The data used in the mintage tables came directly from the US Mint web site and their Office of Public Affairs.”

“After a coin’s mintage was received from the Mint it was checked against the weekly sales report behavior at the close of the sales cycle to make certain that all options for the purchase of the coins were included in the final numbers. If the two pieces of data did not fit then a new inquiry was made at the Mint. Collectors of new active series need up to date mintage data, and based on my research ours are correct final audited numbers through Sept 29th 2011 unless otherwise noted.”

According to the work done by Mr. Jordan, the Tyler coin mintages are actually 3,143 for the uncirculated, and 4,844 for the proof version. That represents a difference of roughly 1,000 coins in both cases from the figures in the Red Book, which is a very substantial difference. Coin collectors deserve to have more accurate information than that.

As interest in the spouse coins has waned in recent years, mintages have been coming in much lower than they did during the earlier years of the program. The Mint has also reduced the authorized maximum mintage levels several times, and slowing sales in 2011 may result in another cut in those levels. None of the spouse coins except those released in 2007 sold out of their maximum mintage levels, and those issues trade for close to bullion value, because they are perceived as common, even though many were melted.

Moreover, there is simply no way to know today what the lowest mintage coin of the series will be when the series concludes. But based on recent trends, there is a strong likelihood that some future coin will come in with a lower number.

In addition, numbers do not tell the whole story. The Julia Tyler coins, and those of Letitia Tyler, President Tyler’s second wife, both continue to carry premiums, and that is partly a result of the fact that they are broadly perceived as attractive pieces that depict beautiful women.

The Eliza Johnson coin, on the other hand, has been repeatedly criticized as being unattractive, and that probably goes a long way to explaining why so few coins were sold.

As I have written many times, today’s unloved coins that sell poorly often become tomorrow’s low-mintage darlings. But the catch is that the coins need to combine low mintages with long-term demand, and a lot of times one is there without the other.

A case in point is the five-ounce America the Beautiful coins, which also had a strong start during their first year of issue in 2010. The coins were not actually made available until early the following year. The 2010 bullion coins, which were hard to obtain in early 2011, due to distribution problems, and the first 2010 numismatic version, the 2010-P Hot Springs coin, were hot commodities for a while.

But then interest in these coins began to decline, and today sales numbers for both versions of the coins are very low. The Mint has also reduced the maximum mintage levels for the numismatic versions to 25,000, while the bullion versions are currently minted to demand.

It is possible that future collectors will pay a premium for coins in this series with low mintages, but if few people collect them over the years, and even fewer build complete sets, the demand for them will probably not be there.

And therein lies the conundrum of modern coin collecting. Which coins that few people want today will be in high demand tomorrow? That is the $64,000 question.

golino portrait thumb Top 50 Most Popular Modern Coins: A Conversation with John MabenLouis Golino is a coin collector and numismatic writer, whose articles on coins have appeared in Coin World, Numismatic News, and a number of different coin web sites. His column for CoinWeek, “The Coin Analyst,” covers U.S. and world coins and precious metals. He collects U.S. and European coins and is a member of the ANA, PCGS, NGC, and CAC. He has also worked for the U.S. Library of Congress and has been a syndicated columnist and news analyst on international affairs for a wide variety of newspapers and web sites.


Louis Golino
Louis Golino
Louis Golino is an award-winning numismatic journalist and writer specializing on modern U.S. and world coins. He has been writing a weekly column for CoinWeek since May 2011 called “The Coin Analyst,” which focuses primarily on modern numismatic issues and developments at major world mints. In August 2015 he received the Numismatic Literary Guild’s (NLG) award for Best Website Column for “The Coin Analyst.” He is also a contributor to Coin World, where he wrote a bimonthly feature and weekly blog, and The Numismatist, the American Numismatic Association’s (ANA) monthly publication, where he writes a monthly column on modern world coins. He is also a founding member of the Modern Coin Forum sponsored by Modern Coin Mart. He previously served as a congressional relations specialist and policy analyst at the Congressional Research Service of the Library of Congress and as a syndicated columnist and news analyst on international politics and national security for a wide variety of publications. He has been writing professionally since the early 1980s when he began writing op-ed articles and news analyses.

Related Articles


  1. Excellent article Louis!

    I love data, and actually collected data tracking the Unc versions of the Julia Tyler coin vs. the Eliza Johnson coin. I believe Mr. Jordan’s numbers to be more accurate as well. The particular reason for me tracking these two coins against each other was to determine if the Johnson Unc coin would be a more valuable coin (at least based on lower mintage) than the Tyler Unc coin.

    The Tyler Unc coin indeed carries a higher premium, but I don’t think the attractiveness of the coin is sole reason for this large premium over the Johnson Unc coin (although it may play a small part). The primary reason, in my humble opinion, is that people are still going by the Red Book numbers and don’t realize that another coin actually has a lower mintage. Eventually, the Red Book will catch up and its numbers will be corrected, but until that time Julia will be considered more valuable. That said, it may be a good time to grab a Johnson Unc coin (if one doesn’t look at it for too long).

    Your article does bring up a few other good observations. First, that the Red Book mintages are inaccurate, at least for more recent coins. Second, that the Eliza Johnson coin is one of the most unattractive coins ever produced, which may have played a part in its lower mintages. Third, the growing unpopularity of the series combined with high PM prices (and a poor economy/high unemployment) is going to drive mintages lower and lower.

    I may be wrong, but it seems that either the spouse coins should have been put on silver (or even copper/bronze) or the presidents should have been the ones on gold. Producing gold spouse coins seems to be another indication of how out-of-touch congress is these days. I believe we can expect gold spouse mintages to drop into the high 1000/low 2000 range in the very near future.

    In conclusion, it may be a good idea to keep an eye on Garfield and Hayes FS coins as they may be the next reigning queens of the gold spouses.

  2. Joe,
    Thanks for taking the time to make such a thoughtful contribution, and thanks for your kind words.
    I agree with most of your points. It is hard to understand why Congress would create a half-ounce gold series at a time of rising gold prices, esp. with so many other PM coins being released these days.
    And as you know, we are still waiting to find out when the 2012 spouse coins will be released. I am not so unhappy about that though since I can’t afford to get them any time soon.

    • I really agree with your last comment. I think most who are collecting the FS coins wouldn’t have their feeling hurt if the series abruptly ended. As collectors it is in our nature to want a copy of each coin offered in the series, and a premature conclusion to the program would definitely make completing the series more affordable! To be honest, there are other coins I would like to spend what little money I have left on.

      Anyway, thanks again for your article…

  3. Louis,

    Nice job covering what is not known to the mainstream collecting public, namely that the #1 retail guide for coins is not necessarily one you can count on if your aim is to get the most accurate and up to date mintage information for moderns. Further, that the gold spouse and five ounce ATB silver coins are being largely ignored but could be the “gee I could have bought those for a song when nobody wanted them” items down the road.

    By the way, Eric Jordan truly is in a class of his own with his data mining and statistical knowledge. I’m proud to say the mintage figures posted on our website are the result of his research.

    Of course it is NOT a situation where nobody wants spouse and ATB coins, we still sell lots of them but there is definitely no fever. As for th U.S. Mint, I think they got it right with the recent made to order concept (this should not preclude the possibility of limited editions being struck as well) but they really are lacking in their recognition of dealers as an integral part of their overall collectible sales program.

    Just two (of many)examples would be not having a discounted direct buy program (outside of their bulk program) with meaningful discounts, and second not providing reliable and timely ADVANCE information of product release dates. Dealers need time to prepare to introduce coins to their customers and to plan selling strategies.

    I agree with Joe in that Gold Presidential Coins and Silver Spouse Coins probably would have resulted in more sales, but I like the fact that the women finally got the spotlight in Numismatics. More and more women are collecting these days, and we have a greater percentage of women buyers for spouse coins when compared to any other series.

    Thanks again for a great read Louis.

    John Maben

  4. The Red Book seems to hold sway over the hobby when it comes to issues like this. Consider the phony 2001-S Sacagawea “key date” proof. There’s no justifiable reason whatsoever for that particular coin to carry any kind of premium over the other golden dollars minted from 2000-2007. The 2008, the real “key” if there really is one, has the benefit of being lower mintage than the 2001 and the last of its design type.

  5. Many thanks to John Maben and Charles Morgan for their comments.

    I think Joe’s point about the Red Book numbers having such an impact, even when they are not correct, is an important point. I admire the great work that Whitman does publishing cutting-edge numismatic literature, and improving mintage data would only make the Red Book better.

    But it is really only a starting point, and more specialized resources like the book by John Maben and Eric Jordan, and Mr. Jordan’s earlier book on modern commems are essential.

    Finally, it is interesting, though not surprising, that women are string buyers of spouse coins. Women do indeed deserve to be represented more on our coinage, real women that is, and I am pleased that more women are becoming coin collectors. Just think of all those coins your wife will agree to your buying when she has the bug too!

  6. Joe,
    I have no idea. I’d suggest asking him at his site, where you can post a comment, or try sending an e-mail, which I think he lists in Numismatic News for sending letters to the editor, which is another option. Feel free to include a link to this story.

    I think it behooves people like editors of coin publications (and writers too) to be especially careful when reporting this kind of information because they have at least some impact on the market.


Please enter your comment!
Please enter your name here

This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Learn how your comment data is processed.

Great Collection Coin Auctions

AU Capital Management US gold Coins

Professional Coin Grading Service