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Classic US Gold Coins – So You’ve Decided to Collect Type Two $20 Liberty Head Double Eagles…

Type Two $20

By Doug WinterRareGoldCoins.com ……

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In 1866, the motto IN GOD WE TRUST was added to the reverse of the double eagle. This created the second variety of Liberty Head double eagle, known to today’s collectors as the Type Two $20 Lib. This variety was produced from 1866 through 1876 and as follows:

  • Philadelphia, 1866-1876 (12 issues)
  • San Francisco, 1866-1876 (12 issues)
  • Carson City, 1870-1876 (7 issues)

In all, there are 31 issues. This includes two 1873 each of the 1873-P and 1873-S, as both years employ an Open 3 and a Closed 3 logotype.

Type Two double eagles are not as popular as their Type One and Type Three counterparts. The reasons for this are not exactly clear, as Type Two issues are very collectable as this article will show.

Until a few years ago, this type was actively promoted by a large marketing firm and this created considerable demand. When this promotion ended, this type languished – except for the Carson City issues, which remain as popular as ever.

I feel that this is currently an overlooked series. Some dates are clearly undervalued, and a contrarian will discover reasonably good availability on higher-quality examples of many of the tougher dates.

Let’s explore some of the ways to collect Type Two double eagles, from basic to intense.

1871-CC $20.00 NGC AU50. Images courtesy Doug Winter Numismatics

1. Complete Sets

As I mentioned above, there are 31 issues that constitute a full set of Type Two double eagles. There is one very rare and expensive issue (the 1870-CC) that is going to be a stumbling block for all but the deeper-pocketed collectors. The second rarest issue is the 1871-CC, which has become hard to locate and pricey in recent years. All of the other issues are available in the AU50 to MS62 range for less than $10,000.

Nearly all the pre-1873 Philadelphia and San Francisco issues share the same rarity profile. These are available in grades through AU55, scarce in properly graded AU58, rare in the lower Uncirculated grades, and very rare in MS62 and above.

1868 $20.00 NGC AU55 CAC

The scarcest Philadelphia date is the 1868 and this is followed by the 1870, 1871, and 1869. Any of these dates can be located for $5,000 and lower. If a collector can afford to spend $10,000 per coin, he will be able to complete the dozen coin P mint date run in Uncirculated.

None of the 12 San Francisco dates are scarce but two (1866-S Motto and 1867-S) are very scarce in properly graded AU58, and quite rare in any Uncirculated grade. The other 10 dates are only moderately scarce in the higher circulated to lower Uncirculated grades.

The seven Carson City issues range from common to very rare. Most collectors skip the 1870-CC and focus on the remaining six dates. The 1871-CC is going to be very hard to locate for less than $40,000 to $50,000, and a really nice AU example might run closer to $60,000-70,000, if you can find one. I haven’t seen a really nice one in a number of years and I’d advise you to act quickly if you see the right coin.

The 1870-CC deserves some attention as well. This issue was recognized as a rarity many years ago but it really came into its own in the early 2000s. In June 2000, a PCGS EF45 sold for $120,750 in a Goldberg sale. By September 2008, the same firm sold another PCGS EF45 for $345,000. After the 2008-2009 Financial Crisis, this date/grade dropped down to a $225,000 valuation, but the last PCGS EF45 to sell at auction brought $300,000 in January 2018.

I have only seen three or four 1870-CC double eagles that I thought were nice coins, and the best I’ve handled was a PCGS AU53 that I sold into a Nevada collection around 15 years ago. My advice regarding this date is to be patient and to be aggressive if and when the “right” coin comes up.

If the 1870-CC isn’t included, a nice set of EF/AU Type Two double eagles should cost in the area of $175,000-200,000, with around one-quarter to one-third of this budgeted on the 1871-CC. A nicer set consisting of AU and Uncirculated pieces would require $275,000 to $300,000. Upwards of $500,000 could easily be spent on a world-class collection of mostly Uncirculated Type Two double eagles.

2. Year Sets

A year set of Type Two double eagles would consist of one coin per year from 1866 through 1876. This would be a total of 11 coins. The appeal of this set is that it allows the collector of average means to skip the expensive 1870-CC and 1871-CC issues and to substitute them with more affordable Philadelphia or San Francisco issues.

1876-CC $20.00 PCGS AU58

If the collector decides to attempt such a set, he should make sure to include at least one or two Carson City coins. The most logical are the 1875-CC and the 1876-CC; both can be obtained in nice AU grades for around $5,000 per coin.

A very presentable set with the coins in EF and lower AU grades could be assembled for around $25,000. A set with every coin in nice AU grades could be assembled for around $50,000. An Uncirculated set would cost at least $75,000 and if the coins grade at least MS62 to MS63, the cost would be into six figures.

3. Mint Sets

We’ve touched on the general parameters of the three mints above. Another way to dabble in the Type Two market is to assemble a three-coin set that contains one example of each mint which struck this design.

1873 OPEN 3 $20.00 PCGS MS62+ CAC

Most collectors who seek a Philadelphia Type Two for a three-coin mint set are likely to purchase a comparatively high-grade common date (1873-1876). Prices for MS62 and MS63 common P mints have dropped to temptingly low levels and these seem like good values to me if the coins are properly graded.

A San Francisco issue for this set is also likely to be dated from 1873 to 1876, as these four years are much more available in higher grades than the 1866-1872 issues. For both the P and S mint coins, $2,500-5,000 will buy a really impressive piece.

The Carson City issues are scarcer and very popular. For type purposes, the 1875-CC and 1876-CC are the likely choice. An interesting alternative would be a scarcer date such as an 1872-CC or an 1873-CC in mid-range AU.

4. As a Type Coin

I mentioned above that price levels for higher-grade common date Type Two $20 Libs are at their lowest point in many years. This is the result of supply increases, reduced demand, gradeflation and other factors.

1868-S $20.00 NGC MS62

A nice common date in PCGS MS62 is currently an easy item to locate in the $2,500-3,000 range; these were trading for $3,500-4,500 just a few years ago. MS63 Type Two coins are harder to locate and even a common date is rather hard to locate in this grade. With some patience, an example can be procured in the $8,000-10,000 range. A properly graded MS64 is a rarity with just a few dozen extant in PCGS holders. Examples are offered infrequently and you can expect to spend $50,000++ for the right coin. A Gem Type Two is extremely rare and only a small number

Buying Tips

As someone who has bought millions of dollars’ worth of Type Two double eagles, here are a few buying tips I’d like to share.

  • Most Type Two issues are weakly struck on Liberty’s hair. Learn how to distinguish between strike and wear or you will be clueless when it comes to grading these.
  • Nearly all issues dated between 1866 and 1872 are very rare in MS62 and higher grades. For most buyers, nice AU55 and AU58 coins represent the best value grade.
  • Thousands of Type Two coins have come out of Europe and other overseas banks. These coins are easily distinguishable by their dirty gold “Euro” appearance. I like this look but your enthusiasm may vary.
  • As a rule, this type is nearly always found with extensive surface abrasions or bagmarks. If you are patient, you should be able to find coins which are cleaner than normal but you should realize that busy surfaces are the rule, not the exception.

If you are thinking of working on a set of Type Two double eagles and would like my help, please contact me at (214) 675-9897 or by email at [email protected].

Doug Winter Numismatics, specialists in U.S. gold coins

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About Doug Winter

Doug_Winter2Doug has spent much of his life in the field of numismatics; beginning collecting coins at the age of seven, and by the time he was 10 years old,  buying and selling coins at conventions in the New York City area.

In 1989, he founded Douglas Winter Numismatics, and his firm specializes in buying and selling choice and rare United States coins, especially US gold coins and all branch mint material.

Recognized as one of the leading specialized numismatic firms, Doug is an award winning author of over a dozen numismatic books and the recognized expert on US Gold. His knowledge and exceptional eye for properly graded and original coins has made him one of the most respected figures in the numismatic community and a sought after dealer by collectors and investors looking for professional personalized service, a select inventory of impeccable quality and fair and honest pricing.  Doug is also a major buyer of all US coins and is always looking to purchase collections both large and small.  He can be reached at 214-675-9897.

Doug has been a contributor to the Guidebook of United States Coins (also known as the “Redbook”) since 1983, Walter Breen’s Encyclopedia of United States and Colonial Coins, Q. David Bowers’ Encyclopedia of United States Silver Dollars and Andrew Pollock’s United States Pattern and Related Issues

In addition he has authored 13 books on US Gold coins including:
  • Gold Coins of the New Orleans Mint: 1839-1909
  • Gold Coins of the Carson City Mint: 1870 – 1893
  • Gold Coins of the Charlotte Mint: 1838-1861
  • Gold Coins of the Dahlonega Mint 1838-1861
  • The United States $3 Gold Pieces 1854-1889
  • Carson City Gold Coinage 1870-1893: A Rarity and Condition Census Update
  • An Insider’s Guide to Collecting Type One Double Eagles
  • The Connoisseur’s Guide to United States Gold Coins
  • A Collector’s Guide To Indian Head Quarter Eagles
  • The Acadiana Collection of New Orleans Coinage
  • Type Three Double Eagles, 1877-1907: A Numismatic History and Analysis
  • Gold Coins of the Dahlonega Mint, 1838-1861: A Numismatic History and Analysis
  • Type Two Double Eagles, 1866-1876: A Numismatic History and Analysis

Finally Doug is a member of virtually every major numismatic organization, professional trade group and major coin association in the US.

Doug Winter
Doug Winterhttps://www.raregoldcoins.com
Doug Winter founded Douglas Winter Numismatics (DWN) in 1985. The nationally renowned firm specializes in buying and selling rare United States gold coins. He has written over a dozen books, including the standard references on Charlotte, Dahlonega, and New Orleans gold coinage, and Type 1 Liberty Head Double Eagles. Douglas has also contributed to the A Guidebook of United States Coins, Walter Breen’s Encyclopedia of United States and Colonial Coins, Q. David Bowers’ Encyclopedia of United States Silver Dollars, and Andrew Pollock’s United States Pattern and Related Issues. He is a member of the PNG, the ANA, the ANS, the NLG, CAC, PCGS, and NGC - among other professional affiliations. Contact Doug Winter at [email protected].

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